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Jill Andrews Sprague (00:00:22) – And learning. It’s not all about you, right? As a as a gymnast and, you know, in an individual sport and you’re out there by yourself and your success depends is completely dependent on what you do, and it is all about you. Um, that’s a big transition into parenthood. Then it’s it’s it’s not all about you and it’s not a reflection on you.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:00:50) – Welcome to the Bruin gymnastics edition of the Resilience to Brilliance podcast, where you’ll be inspired by riveting behind the scenes stories of UCLA gymnastics legends. I’m your host, Kim Hamilton Anthony. Here we go.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:01:11) – Jill Andrew Sprague competed for the Bruins from 1987 to 1990. She won two individual national titles on vault and balance beam. She finished her career at UCLA, setting eight Bruin career records while earning eight All-American honors.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:01:29) – Jill won the prestigious Honda Award in 1990 as the top collegiate athlete in the sport of gymnastics, and she was inducted into UCLA’s Hall of Fame in 2001. I had a chance to sit down with Jill to chat about what resilience has looked like for her as an athlete and as a law student, and we also discussed how the lessons she’s learned along the way really did become useful when it came to her parent journey, which didn’t quite turn out the way she expected. Jill, thank you so much for being here today.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:02:08) – I’m thrilled to be here. Thanks, Kim.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:02:10) – All right. Well, I have to start off with this question. Of course, you were one of UCLA’s greats. Yet I’ve heard you say how some of your coaches didn’t necessarily think you were that talented. I mean, this is in spite of you winning two individual national championship titles, NCAA and becoming an eight time All-American. Okay, so what’s the deal with that?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:02:33) – That was kind of the narrative as I was coming up through club gymnastics, and my club coach was always, you know, well, she’s not the most talented, but, you know, she’s she manages to get it done.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:02:49) – And they say that to your face or in your ear, you know, or to reporters.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:02:53) – Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah. And so yeah. So there are some newspaper articles, probably what I was getting ready to go to UCLA or oh my goodness, you know about gymnastics that talk about my lack of talent.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:03:08) – That is unbelievable.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:03:10) – Well it’s it’s true. You know, in a sense there was always somebody more talented than I was in the gym, and there was always somebody that I looked up to or wished that I had, you know, wish I could swing like that or I wish I could do what other people do in the gym. But ultimately I was just sort of steady and consistent and, and think my work ethic kind of took the place of talent. Oh, gosh. So yeah. Yeah. So it wasn’t necessarily untrue, but it was definitely something that I, you know, had to deal with.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:03:48) – I mean, I think you had to have had some talent to go as far as you did and to do as well as you did. I mean, I mean, that’s just my argument. I don’t I don’t think I’m wrong, but I think there was some talent in there to Jill. Now, did you find it as an insult?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:04:06) – You know, I, I don’t think I did. I found it more like a challenge, so I don’t think I was I was necessarily insulted by it and I didn’t necessarily disagree with it. I think that I certainly had certain things that I could do. Well, I didn’t, you know, I wasn’t hopeless. And I, you know, and I’ve always been very strong, physically strong. So that was always something that really helped with gymnastics. So seeing it as more of a of a challenge than a put down, I think served me well. Yeah.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:04:44) – And I, I think so too, just watching you in the gym. For those of you who don’t know, Jill and I came in to UCLA as freshmen together, and so I got to see a lot of that grit, a lot of that tenacity. And you are just an incredible athlete, incredibly incredible mentally and physically. And it was fun to watch you. Now gymnastics is one of those sports. Where shall I say it’s ripe for injury opportunities? I was actually talking with the ad from another Division one school, not UCLA, and he was saying that one of their biggest line items for expenses had to do with gymnastics injuries. Now, I don’t know about you, but it was a surprise to me and maybe it should have been. But one of the things that you were able to do is to press through. And I don’t know that injuries really affected you significantly, because one of the things that you’re known for, of course, is being the only UCLA gymnast to ever compete in all four events in every single meet, all four years of your career. How in the world did you do that?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:05:57) – Well, I was a lot of good luck. I was really lucky on the injury front, and I think that’s where the physical strength comes in. I was strong enough that I can get helped protect my knees and my ankles. And, you know, there there always are injuries that you have to work through as a gymnast, as any athlete. And I was lucky that those were injuries I could work through. Um, and so I didn’t have to sit out any meets or, you know, it was it definitely was a point of pride that I was on the, in the lineup for every event, for every meet, for four years. I certainly am proud of that. But the luck had a lot to do with it, too.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:06:50) – There was a lot of. Talent as well, and hard work that enabled you to get as strong as you were. Now, do you think your mental game also had something to do with it?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:07:04) – Absolutely. I think that I had a somewhat unique ability to focus was like it was extremely focused in workouts and meats in particular. I remember walking in freshman year when you and I started at UCLA, and I looked across the gym and I looked at Gigi Zosa and and she was laser focused and I thought, that’s that’s what I want to be. And and so I kind of took it to heart and I and it was, you know, something that got me through the mental peace of gymnastics for many years, as well as just being able to focus, like everything else, out and not get psyched out. Really? Yeah.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:07:56) – I can still remember the look. You would look like this through your eyebrows and that was your focus. Oh. She’s ready. No, don’t. Don’t even distract. Don’t even try to distract her because it’s not happening.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:08:11) – Yeah. My husband gets that look, sometimes. Oh, really?
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:08:14) – Yeah. I don’t think I want to be on the other end of that look. No. Okay, so we move through your gymnastics career. Many of your challenges actually came after your years at UCLA, starting with law school. Tell me about that.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:08:29) – Yeah, I think I, I felt the need to just move on quickly from gymnastics. And if I had to do it over again, I’m not sure I would necessarily make that same choice, but I’m going to.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:08:44) – Pause you on that one. So tell me, what made you want to move away from gymnastics quickly? I hear that a lot from different athletes. So what was your reasoning?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:08:55) – For me, it was I didn’t want to get stuck in the past. I didn’t want to get stuck. You know, I loved every second of my career. Really. I don’t have any of those big trauma stories necessarily. I really loved gymnastics, and I loved competing at UCLA. I didn’t want to get stuck. I didn’t want that to be all ice. My only. Kind of identity. And so I really. That had to just move on quickly and move on to the next thing. And I don’t know that I savored the experience as much as I as I should have.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:09:37) – Okay, so if you were to go back, you would probably spend more time savoring all that you accomplished. I mean, not many people can say that they’ve done what you’ve been able to do as an athlete and a student.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:09:51) – I think I would have I think I would have enjoyed the ride a little more and, you know, savored the time at UCLA, not been in a hurry, um, you know, done some maybe interim job, you know, maybe stays in the area. I’m not sure, but I didn’t do that, and I, I just kind of rushed right into law school thinking that was the next, next greatest thing to do. And, and, and it was a, it was a hard dose of reality.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:10:26) – So you’ve been resilient in your sport and now you got to practice some of that resilience in law school. What was that like?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:10:35) – Yeah. It was it was a whole a whole different ball of wax. It was um, yeah. I went from feeling very confident in my abilities, you know, and my, um, and what I could do and, and, and law school was really put me in my place. It was, it was much harder than I anticipated. I did, well, undergrad without having to work that hard, I was able to. Yeah, and was able to have a really good time in college and still do. Okay. And and this was this was a rude awakening. Like, wait a minute. You’re not you’re not that smart, you know, and you didn’t have gymnastics anymore. And so, you know, it was a definite I think I think most athletes will tell you there’s a transition. You know, when you’re moving away from your sport into the next phase of life, there’s there’s a sense of loss and it’s a transition. So it was that that transition coupled with getting smacked in the forehead with really hard law school exams and a very competitive, you know, class and you know, not, you know, not being at the top of my class, you know being right in the middle. And I almost left after first year. Really I’d made a mistake. Oh my.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:11:57) – Goodness. Yeah.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:11:59) – Yeah. But again, not being the most talented you know I think I think there’s a theme that you just kind of push through right. And and you know and working hard will get you know, the difference the difference with to me with law school, with gymnastics there was a direct correlation. The harder you worked in the gym, the better your gymnastics was. Right. Law school? Not so much. I mean, you could work really hard, but I, you know, I might not do as well on a test as I thought I could have, or it was just just a different, different experience and definitely a growth experience.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:12:39) – It sounds like it. So you’re about to leave law school, but what made you stay?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:12:46) – I had a conversation with my dad, and and he kind of gave me a reality check. Um, and it was, it was kind of like, you think you failed because you got BS, like, what is happening here? You know, like like, you know, you don’t. It just just. A reality check. Okay, you’re doing fine. And you’re not a failure. And so just keep going. Wow. And yeah, he was right.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:13:21) – But in your mind, you’re thinking with BS, you’re not doing well at all. And I wonder if some of that comes from being in a sport where you are trained to be perfect and shoot for perfection every single time. And when you don’t get that a, it’s just unacceptable.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:13:39) – Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, expecting perfection and and absolute success. Um, and when you. Yeah. And really feeling kind of your world gets rocked when, when that’s not happening despite your best efforts. You know, I felt like I worked harder in law school then maybe I ever even did in the gym, you know? So that was definitely an experience. Um.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:14:09) – Now there’s something else that happened in your adult world, and that’s when you moved from being that lawyer. Now, let me backtrack a little bit. When you graduated from law school, you went into the profession. Were there any challenges that you faced there where you had to be resilient?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:14:29) – Absolutely. Um, just the the workload. Um, I went into a law firm in Chicago and working 70 hours a week, 75 hours a week, and really having to pay your dues and and really evaluating what was important to me. Was it important to be a fancy lawyer? Was it important to be, you know, true to myself, you know, where were my priorities? I, I was married at the time and was looking toward starting a family at some point. I didn’t know when, but certainly the early years of practicing law were formative and and challenging. And again, it was just the keep your head down and. Keep putting the work in. That sort of got me through that.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:15:28) – So you wanted this career, but then you also wanted a family. And eventually those things happened. Now, was parenting what you expected it to be?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:15:40) – No.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:15:42) – No.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:15:42) – There’s there’s a theme in adulting that nothing is as you expect it to be. So, so no, I, you know, and I worked um, I worked all the way through raising my kids with some breaks here and there. And one of the breaks that I took was to address some learning differences with my oldest child and and just figure out. You know what? What he needed and how I could help them and I. Just made the realization that I couldn’t. I couldn’t do both things well. And so I did take a step back from my career for about six years where I was, I worked part time and really put my energy into my my kids, and particularly my oldest child with learning differences. And as he grew, so did the issues. Um, you know, big kids, big problems, kind of a thing. And so that, you know, teenage years were, were hard and, and, you know, just dealing with mental health in this day and age and social media and devices and trying to trying to navigate that because we didn’t grow up with that and we, we didn’t know, um, how. Impactful that technology can be on kids, and particularly when you have a kid who’s more vulnerable and maybe slower processing and, um, you know, feels, feel that is different, knows that these things are different and, but wishes they weren’t and and you know, it’s a it’s a struggle every day. So having to kind of slow down and. You know, make myself available for him was, you know, definitely a growth experience, but. You know, it’s still day to day.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:17:57) – Yeah. Do you feel like that was the right choice for you? Because, I mean, you think about it, you’re an attorney and you work so hard to get to the level you were and then to take a step back for six years. That’s a big deal. So tell me why that choice was the best choice for you? Yeah. Do you have any regrets?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:18:25) – It’s short answers. No, I don’t have any regrets. Do I think at times, where would I be if I had just kept, you know, on the path I was on professionally? Sure. Sometimes. Think about, think about that and think, oh, had I just stayed at this one job, you know, I would I would be here by now, you know. But the answer is no. I don’t regret that. And I do think that I made the right choice, I. Life is is prioritizing. Yeah. And and can I think my priority being my children at that time period was was the right decision? Yeah.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:19:14) – I love hearing that and the fact that it’s okay. Do not continue on the career path that you had planned. Sometimes there are bumps in the road and we have to make adjustments, right?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:19:31) – Yeah, it’s all about pivoting.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:19:33) – Yeah. And as you were working with your son and going through with him all the challenges that he had. Did you ever blame yourself for any of it, or did you ever think, oh, if I would have just done this, then maybe things would be different. Something.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:19:54) – So, um. I mean, did I ever think I could have handled things better? For sure. I mean, and there’s not like, I can, like, immediately come up with, like, three examples or like, yeah, I could have totally handled that better. But did I bring myself for, um, for his challenges? No, I don’t I don’t know what I would have done differently that would have made everything okay. Think it was, you know, this was the the hand we were dealt. And you play it the best you can. Um, certainly. There’s certain things I would do differently, you know, in, in the moment of a specific situation. But overall, I’ve never really felt. Like like that I’m responsible for. Right. Kind of that. The situation as a whole.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:20:55) – You have the opportunity to decline answering this. And that’s something that you’ve taught me as an attorney, as my attorney in the past, is Kimmy, you don’t have to answer that. So, Joe, you don’t have to answer this, but I’m wondering if you’re willing to share maybe an example of one of the challenging times where perhaps you weren’t sure if you could keep going. Where maybe. In your. Maybe like in your law career or your your schooling, you felt like giving up. But you know you can’t, right? When you’re handling your own children. Was there ever a time when you just said, I don’t know if I’m cut out for this?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:21:46) – Yeah. We and this goes back to pivoting. Um, we we moved to a school district that, that I thought was going to be really good for them. They had a very good special ed program. And and so I thought, this is going to solve our problems, we’re going to move to this great school district. And it’s going to, you know, everything’s going to be easy. And it was really hard on him. The move itself was really hard. And you know and he he. Gutted through it. But then, you know, by the time the high school years came and and the, the social pressures and the, you know, he was he was desperately unhappy. Um, and so we tried a different school and, and moved, moved him to a different school and, and that came with a whole new set of problems. And, and so it’s, you know, you pivot, you try different things. You’re everything you’re doing is with the best intention, of course. And then when it doesn’t work out, yeah. You have that feeling of just what what else am I supposed to do I don’t have. How are we going to get through this? And and that’s kind of where the, the sheer force of will comes in. And, and maybe my parenting moments weren’t always, you know, textbook. I think we can say that. But that whole, like. But like just putting your shoulder down and just pushing through, it was very familiar to me. It felt like something you would do in gymnastics, like just just push through it. And and so there that kind of translated into, you know, getting, getting my son through some of these tough spots, almost like, you know, get on my back and let me just carry you up the hill kind of thing. Right, I got you can I just by pure force will get you through this and. The answer is no. You can’t buy your own pure force. Well, control or get somebody else through something. It wasn’t for lack of trying. Right.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:24:11) – What’s the biggest lesson you learned from your son through all of this?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:24:17) – I’m trying to say something that’s not trite or cheesy. I mean, because because the first thing comes to my mind is unconditional love. It’s just, wow. You know, I’m. Not putting your expectations on somebody else, just loving them through. They are. But it’s more than that, I just can’t. That’s the kind of trite way to say it. And learning. It’s not all about you, right? As a as a gymnast and, you know, in an individual sport and you’re out there by yourself and your success depends is completely dependent on what you do. And it is all about you. That’s a big transition into parenthood. And it’s it’s it’s not all about you and it’s not a reflection on you. Hmm. Right.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:25:13) – That’s key. Yeah. That was one of the questions I had was did you ever. Feel like you needed to fix it so that. You can look better, or so that it doesn’t reflect negatively on you as a parent or you as an individual. And maybe that’s a bad question, but. I have it. I’m curious. I mean, and the reason I think it’s.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:25:43) – A bad question, I think it’s I think it’s sort of spot on and that’s what you have to get over. So I think you’re spot on, like you. The initial feeling and feel like I got over this fairly early on, but just like, how can I fix this so that. You know, I look good. And I had this perfect child and it. And again it’s back to it’s not about you and and so I really did make an effort to just be open about the struggles because. Because it’s not about me. It’s about what’s best for for my kid. Right? So, um, I can be absolutely, completely proud of him for what he’s accomplished, given the hand.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:26:42) – He’s still right. And, you know, it’s not about. You know, my kid got into Harvard or my kid, you know, it’s a Rhodes Scholar or whatever it is, right? Start. That’s. You know, those are the kind of the things you think of when you’re young. Like, I’m going to have this perfect child who’s going to, you know, cure cancer. And, you know, that’s stuff doesn’t matter, really. Well, it’s not like.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:27:13) – I love that and I love that you talked about unconditional love. I don’t think that’s cheesy. Loving someone for who they are and not for what they can do or what they do for you. That’s huge. I think as we think about our sport. We were judged. We were loved when we performed well. And maybe we felt that we were loved a little less if we didn’t perform well. And for you to. Come to that realization very quickly that, you know what? This is my kid, I love him. He doesn’t have to be perfect. He doesn’t have to perform or accomplish certain things in order for me to to extend love. I just love him just because he’s him. Yep. Yeah. How is he doing now?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:28:12) – He’s doing well. We. You know, it’s. Day to day.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:28:20) – Day to day.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:28:20) – But. But but on the whole he’s doing well. He’s doing well. He’s. You know, doing getting ready to start adulting and and do it independently. I mean, you know, there’s still a lot of support, but as we speak, he’s doing study abroad in Sweden, which. Wow. Pretty pretty nice. Yes. Pretty nice. So yeah. And he’s enjoy. You know he’s been there for two weeks. So so far so good. He’s he’s loving it. Yeah, it’s really good.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:28:57) – Um, Jill, there is a mom or a dad or both who are listening to your story right now. And they might be right in the middle of those challenges with their own children for different reasons. And maybe they feel like even though they know they can’t give up, but they feel like I don’t know if I can, how much longer I can handle this. I don’t know what to do to get through this. What would you tell them to provide encouragement.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:29:29) – Yeah. So I think I would just say you’re never alone. Um, and I kind of realized this later than I should have, but there’s always resources, and there are always people you can turn to and people who want to help. And, you know, if you if you make the space to think about. Your resources, the people in your life, you know, who you could maybe talk to. And, um, one thing leads to another. You talk to one person, and they they refer you to somebody else. And and the the network of support is really it’s really critical. And you should you should never feel like you’re in it by yourself. Um.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:30:21) – We need each other, right?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:30:23) – We do, we do.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:30:25) – Absolutely we do. Well, I believe that there is this state of being where individuals are operating out of the fullness of who they are and all that they have to offer. And I believe that when we are utilizing our gifts, talents, personalities, our entire makeup to impact the lives of other people, whether it’s our children, the people we work with, people in our community, I believe that. We are living in what I call brilliance mode. I’m going to close out our interview with asking you the question, what does living in brilliance mode look like for Jill Andrew Sprague?
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:31:12) – So I’ve given that some thought. And that’s a hard that’s hard for me to answer, frankly. You know, there are yeah, it’s hard for me to answer. I will answer it in the present, in what I’m doing now and when I feel like I’m. Yes, brilliant. You know, I’m in brilliance mode. And for me now where I am, you know, my, my kids are both in college and so I’m not day to day parenting. I’m general counsel at transit. And and so I have a team I have a team of 22 people. And so when I am in brilliance mode, I’m I’m getting the team where they need to be, you know, getting getting things done and getting it done in a way where everybody feels like they’re accomplishing something that they are adding and that they that they’re they’re proud of those accomplishments and, and what they’re contributing and, you know, and that they, they want to do more. And when I can when I can help motivate people to come in and, you know, you know, work is work. But the when you’re really clicking with a team and, and you’re doing important things that feel good. Doesn’t get any better than that. I mean, it’s brilliant.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:32:50) – I love that. Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule, Jill. I appreciate it and it was fun talking with you. And thanks for sharing some of the challenges that you faced and how you were able to overcome. Just keep pressing through. Yeah.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:33:09) – Lower your shoulder and just go lower your.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:33:11) – Shoulder and go. The best advice ever. Thank you Joe.
Jill Andrews Sprague (00:33:18) – Thank you Kim. It’s so nice to talk to you. Spend time with you.
Kim Hamilton Anthony (00:33:29) – You know, there are a few things that I took away from my conversation with Jill Andrew Sprague. The first was the importance of being laser focused when it comes to accomplishing your goals. We can easily any of us can be easily distracted by naysayers who don’t believe you’re talented enough because you don’t fit their predefined ideas of what true talent is. But there’s just something about listening to how Jill turned those negative comments into fuel to boost her determination and her belief in herself and her ability to achieve her dreams. And I believe all of us can do the same. Whatever those dreams may be. My next take away from Jill. Was to not let your inability to be perfect cause you to quit pursuing your heart’s desire. I know sometimes in my own life, I’ve allowed the fear of not being perfect to prevent me from even beginning to pursue something I desire in the first place. When perfection is the only standard that’s acceptable to us. It can be paralyzing. It’s like. It’s like prison, this prison of perfectionism that holds many of us captive. Now, don’t get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with striving to be your absolute best. But maybe sometimes. Sometimes in life, being excellent is enough. When I think about it, as a gymnast, it is quite possible that what we consider excellent is someone else’s perfect. I guess it’s all about perspective. So perfectionism can paralyze our pursuits.
And the last thing I’ll share that really resonated with me is what Jill has learned from her son, who has learning differences. She felt like it was cheesy, maybe a bit cliche. But it wasn’t to me. I thought it was powerful. She said that her son taught her unconditional love. And the importance of not putting your expectation on somebody else. And just loving them for who they are. She also said that parenting is not about you. I’ve heard way too many stories from young people, and even people well into their 50s who are still trying to please their parents. So I wonder if there is enough unconditional love going around these days. Sometimes. Sometimes young people feel the pressure to learn the love and acceptance of their own parents by performing well at school, or in athletics or in the workplace. And sometimes we as parents, want to live out our own dreams through the lives of our children, so we pressure them to do the things we want them to do go to the schools. We want them to go to major and what we want them to major in and get that job that we’ve always wanted to have. But I. I don’t think any child should have to earn a parent’s love. And is wonderful that Jill, this super high achiever, can model this unconditional love for her own son for us. I think it’s just the way it should be. There is a great reward for that. And by that I mean loving unconditionally for the child. Most definitely there’s a reward, but also for the parent. I don’t know if you caught this, but as I listen to Jill described her perspective of having this unconditional love for her son, I sensed that she now has this incredible amount of freedom. Freedom to just be. No hiding. No pretending. Just being. The personal growth she has experienced being a mom of a child who has learning differences. It seems like it set her free from those chains of perfectionism. It’s increased her perspective on life overall, and I believe that it’s made her a much stronger woman and a much stronger parent. I really admire that. Thanks for listening.
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